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Posted by: raven on Nov. 16 2007,16:43
I will post what the plans are later when I know for sure what is going inside it.
I tried looking for what is better AMD vs. intel, but couldn't find it by going to the link you posted slatts. (btw, I would love that map(maybe I can get Jen to work on it))
all I know is that she needs a higher end video card and memory.. just not sure on the intel/AMD chipset to go with.
the guy that is looking into it for us say intel is the better buy this year, but I have my sites on AMD. thoughts and opinions?
update you all later on it.
btw, I am down with a virus on my machince and haven't gotten it back online yet. working on a re format..
rAveN
Posted by: slatts on Nov. 16 2007,17:15
hey i was wondering about you. glad to see your still alive.
did you mean this link i posted... < Computer link >
or another one?
Posted by: Queen-B on Nov. 16 2007,22:47
Hey,nice to hear from ya,good luck with the virus thing.
MISS you.
Nice to hear from you though. 
Posted by: raven on Nov. 18 2007,08:59
| Quote (slatts @ Nov. 16 2007,17:15) |
hey i was wondering about you. glad to see your still alive.
did you mean this link i posted... < Computer link >
or another one?
the other one where it has the clickable site navigation rooms. that would be an awesome map.
I hear that Intel is on the 'better' side of the coin for now but AMD is more stable... both support dual video, and if it's pretty much all the same, then I will stick with AMD...
thoughts?
(working off of her laptop, but the power recharge is busted and it's n*rigged for power and keeps running off the battery if it's bumped too much) that sucks
*anyhow, I would hope to have a new system to her by Christmas (with sites having deals for cheaper stuff) and all for around $800 and that would have to include:
Monitor (preferably 19") around the $110 range
keyboard / mouse (looking at $25ish total) from good 'ol Wallyworld
Tower ($40ish)
Win XP pro ($10 from local college (student price)
60 - 80 gig HD for just windows, partitioned out per Wilders post from way back
200gig+ drive for her games and art programs (probally split 40/60 respectively) both in total I am thinking $230ish
a video card (she is eyeing one on Tiger direct for $60) can't find it to link it... probally gone though.. so maybe I give her one of mine... ATi Radeon 9800 pro or Nvidia 6600GT don't know.
and a Mobo with 4 slots that can handle dual core and at start 2 gig memory..
again, any thoughts, opinions, suggestions would be great.
I have a friend at work looking for me (he is the AMD guy) , and a guy that my parents use that works at compUSA (he is the intel guy)
Posted by: raven on Nov. 29 2007,21:26
This post is for 2 things.. one, to thank slatts for fixing the font color for me. (which btw, I still cannot do)
and an update on the system.... which will be given later this week, lol... was suppose to have an update from one guy Monday via e-mail... the other is suppose to email his specs to us tomorrow...
rAveN
Posted by: slatts on Nov. 30 2007,01:35
was nothing. took 5 min of my time. yor read admin section on how i did it? 
Posted by: raven on Jan. 08 2008,08:26
Coolermaster CM690 black ATX case SLI ready $80< click >
coolermaster 750w powersupply real power pro sli ready $140< click >
4 coolermaster 120mm blue led case fans $40 < click >
XFX nForce 680i LT SLI socket 775 mobo $150< click >
Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 512MB PCIe w/DVI/TV-OUT $90< click >
Corsair 2048 PC6400 DDR2 800MHz (2x1024mb) DHX memory $75< click >
Philips 20x DVDRW SPD24138M SuperAllwrite BK dvd-rom $25 < click >
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 processor 3GHz $277< click >
total so far : roughly $800... getting about $125 back in rebates.
Still need 2 hard drives and windows program..
rAveN
ps.. she did buy a keyboard and mouse from Wally world. adding maybe $50?? 19 for the mouse.. haven't recieved keyboard yet (walmart.com)
Posted by: slatts on Jan. 08 2008,09:50
| Quote (raven @ Jan. 08 2008,09:26) |
| Coolermaster CM690 black ATX case SLI ready $80< click > coolermaster 750w powersupply real power pro sli ready $140< click > 4 coolermaster 120mm blue led case fans $40 < click > XFX nForce 680i LT SLI socket 775 mobo $150< click > Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 512MB PCIe w/DVI/TV-OUT $90< click > Corsair 2048 PC6400 DDR2 800MHz (2x1024mb) DHX memory $75< click > Philips 20x DVDRW SPD24138M SuperAllwrite BK dvd-rom $25 < click > Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 processor 3GHz $277< click > total so far : roughly $800... getting about $125 back in rebates. Still need 2 hard drives and windows program.. rAveN ps.. she did buy a keyboard and mouse from Wally world. adding maybe $50?? 19 for the mouse.. haven't recieved keyboard yet (walmart.com) |
wicked...! i am sure you will be happy with the upgrade.
i know i was with mine.
Posted by: wilder on Jan. 14 2008,19:39
sounds like more than a nice upgrade... is it really *cough cough* for her???
the parts you picked out sounds almost "gamer-class" hardware.
Posted by: raven on Jan. 18 2008,19:32
she also plays and is in classes for game art and design. So we all will be playing games that she has had a hand in, in one way or another
.but yes, I will be using it for UT3 and others while I wait for my upgrade down the road a ways.
Can't wait for it to be up and running. miss playing with you all.
rAveN
Posted by: Guest on Jan. 18 2008,19:41
does she have a sister? that's preferably SINGLE & like her?
eh... prolly NOT!
LoL!
Posted by: slatts on Jan. 18 2008,21:55
can she make skins??
Posted by: raven on Jan. 23 2008,16:55
Yes i do have a sister, but she is only 15 ;P And to Slatts, no, i can't make skins yet, i don't have the experience
I find it hilarious because one of my 4th year courses, the required software is UT99 XD and in another course the textbook is the D&D manual and the software is NWN XD Jen
(PS I am trying to convince Brian to get UT 3 for the PS3 so I can play w/ you guys XD Cause I'm a console whore XD Can I be like Sin~Zeal or something XD)
Posted by: slatts on Jan. 23 2008,23:13
| Quote (raven @ Jan. 23 2008,17:55) |
| Yes i do have a sister, but she is only 15 ;P And to Slatts, no, i can't make skins yet, i don't have the experience I find it hilarious because one of my 4th year courses, the required software is UT99 XD and in another course the textbook is the D&D manual and the software is NWN XD Jen (PS I am trying to convince Brian to get UT 3 for the PS3 so I can play w/ you guys XD Cause I'm a console whore XD Can I be like Sin~Zeal or something XD) |
don't see why not... that would be a cool name.
Posted by: raven on Jan. 27 2008,21:18
Yay! XD lol :P
I have also picked the monitor I want. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5969110 After discount and including tax it is like $275 @ walmart.com
Jen
Posted by: slatts on Jan. 27 2008,23:30
| Quote (raven @ Jan. 27 2008,22:18) |
| Yay! XD lol :P I have also picked the monitor I want. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5969110 After discount and including tax it is like $275 @ walmart.com Jen |
your going to have to register... don't know who i am talking to... lol
Posted by: Guest on Jan. 28 2008,10:13
" you're talking to yourself!"
yeah, starting to confuse me too Jen.
Posted by: slatts on Jan. 28 2008,19:53
| Quote (BaNe @ Jan. 28 2008,11:13) |
| " you're talking to yourself!" yeah, starting to confuse me too Jen. |
here is one better... she is using Ravens Admin status...
she can go were no one has gone before.. if she finds all those nice things i said about her... she will hunt me down.
Posted by: raven on Feb. 07 2008,08:39
hehe, wow, hard to believe i haven't had my own comp for 4 months.... shows how much i don't really need it.
the rebates are starting to get approve, taxes are being done. finishing this baby will get done soon enough.
alas, i think my winxp guy for $10 bucks is out.....
will need to get that or a valid code for my copy or shell out bucks for that. if i can't get my box running to finish clearing out 80 gig drive for her, then will need a HD for hers to get started, so still looking at $300 more or so.
rAveN
| Quote |
| here is one better... she is using Ravens Admin status... she can go were no one has gone before.. if she finds all those nice things i said about her... she will hunt me down. |
on the bright side, she doesn't know my password for it
Posted by: wilder on Feb. 20 2008,17:24
| Quote (raven @ Jan. 23 2008,10:55) |
| Yes i do have a sister, but she is only 15 ;P And to Slatts, no, i can't make skins yet, i don't have the experience I find it hilarious because one of my 4th year courses, the required software is UT99 XD and in another course the textbook is the D&D manual and the software is NWN XD Jen (PS I am trying to convince Brian to get UT 3 for the PS3 so I can play w/ you guys XD Cause I'm a console whore XD Can I be like Sin~Zeal or something XD) |
Can you start grooming your little sister until she's 18, so she'll be good with PC, games, can cook, and loves Wilder?
hehehehe
Posted by: slatts on Feb. 20 2008,19:39
| Quote (raven @ Jan. 23 2008,17:55) |
| (PS I am trying to convince Brian to get UT 3 for the PS3 so I can play w/ you guys |
Play station... don't think you will have the access to the servers that computers use... only other play station users..
Posted by: wilder on Feb. 21 2008,10:17
Slatts might be right... i think UT3 on PS3 plays on the PSN network... and is isolated to it. UT3 on PC can do p2p. where all PC can join any server, or a personal PC on the open internet serving the game.
I don't have UT3 on PS3, so I haven't poke around... if someone has it... poke around and see if you can make and direct connections to servers not on PSN.
Posted by: raven on Mar. 19 2008,10:29
It's Finally done!!!! all the core programs in stalled and updated. now for the games and art programs.
Wilder, where did the "why you should partition your drive" post go..... couldn't find it.. did the best I could with what I remeber.
80 gig drive... 40 for windows, 6 for virtual memory, 6 for temp files, 15 for downloaded files and 16 for misc.... (as best i could remember) if you can / do have it, would be pleased to have it reposted here on the forums again.
| Quote | ||
Coolermaster CM690 black ATX case SLI ready $80< click > coolermaster 750w powersupply real power pro sli ready $140< click > 4 coolermaster 120mm blue led case fans $40 < click > XFX nForce 680i LT SLI socket 775 mobo $150< click > Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 512MB PCIe w/DVI/TV-OUT $90< click > Corsair 2048 PC6400 DDR2 800MHz (2x1024mb) DHX memory $75< click > Philips 20x DVDRW SPD24138M SuperAllwrite BK dvd-rom $25 < click > Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 processor 3GHz $277< click > total so far : roughly $800... getting about $125 back in rebates. Still need 2 hard drives and windows program.. rAveN ps.. she did buy a keyboard and mouse from Wally world. adding maybe $50?? 19 for the mouse.. haven't recieved keyboard yet (walmart.com) |
These next items she got from Newegg.com
Corsair XMS2 2gb 240-pin ddr2 sdram ddr2 800 (pc2 6400) dual channel kit desktop mem model twin2x2048-6400c4 $74
Hitachi deskstar 7k1000 HDS721075KLA330 (0A35154) 750GB 7200 rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $170
Excelstor Jupite Series ESJ8080S 80GB 7200 rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $37
Samsung 226BW Black 22" 2ms (GTG) Widescreen LCD monitor $305
Microsoft WinXP pro w/ SP2C $140
Thermaltake A2427 HD blue LED cooler $7
120 key design * 16 internet keyboard $10
Microsoft blue optical mouse $19
all total $1800
rebates $250
price once rebates start coming (i hate rebates!!!! 8 mos to recieve)
$1550ish
rAveN
Posted by: wilder on Mar. 19 2008,13:47
don't think I have that anymore. Quick list updated:
minimal C drive:
40GB+ for Vista Home/Business.
80GB if you're going Vista Ultimate some day.
VMEM partition, whatever letter you want it to be. It's always been V: for me.
size = max RAM your mobo supports * 2. This works for most, if you intend to do power apps, go *3 to be safe. Create this on your FASTEST drive. Use the largest format blocksize available. Which is 64K in Windows.
The others are:
1 partition/drive for programs -- optional
1 partition/drive for your workspace -- optional
The one for your program should be large enough to install all your programs you intend to put in, and future programs you may put in. I cant give you a number... for some 10GB is enough, for others they need 100GB because they intend to install 50 games.
You can combine the program partition/drive with the workspace.. you dont really need to split them for performance gain. But for re-install convenience so you dont lose your personal workspace stuff... you would seperate them.
Same thing for your workspace... as much as you need to keep everything... your docs, music, files, art, work stuff, personal stuff you dont want to lose. I normally wont even make this partition on my system drive. I'll have a seperate drive for this altogether. I go as far as to use e-sata, and buy 2 identical realiable e-sata drives, and mirror them in raid-1. To keep my data 99% safe and swapable.
Posted by: raven on Mar. 19 2008,15:48
that sounds about right then.. 1 drive is for system related stuff (win / win tied programs such as messengers, skype, etc..)
and the other much larger drive separated into smaller sections for games, graphics, misc. etc....
#### i love my memory (head)
rAveN
too bad about the file though, it was a good read
now the question comes to how to re-direct these files to load into the appropriate drives....
Posted by: wilder on Mar. 19 2008,17:04
yea... but some parts are outdated already... i foudn a few flaw with it.
There's no point to split game program and programs to different partition... you cna make your program files drive and gaming the same drive or partition. If you want extra speed... get the fastest drive you can afford (them WD Raptors), and make that your program/game drive. hmmm heck I'd make that your windows and vmem too.
Don't over do it with partition, you'll get deminishing returns. This is what my workstation PC looks like:
2 x WD RaptorsX 150. Raid-1 (mirror) 150GB total:
---> C: 80GB For Vista Ultimate
---> V: 16GB for Virtual memory
---> D: the rest of space (for programs)
2 x WD 200GB in Raid 1 (Mirror)
---> W: (200GB) for my workspace. I put my desktop, docs, temp, and cache here too.
1 x Seagate external esata 750GB
---> L: 750GB for Library and backup
--------------------
My Gaming PC:
2 x WD RaptorsX 150. Raid-0 (stripe) = 300GB total:
---> C: 40GB For Vista Home Premium
---> V: 16GB for Virtual memory
---> D: the rest of space (for programs/games). D: is also my temp, and cache partition.
Since it's my gaming PC I dont need backup really.
-----------------
My Fileserver PC:
2 x WD Raptors 36GB. Raid-1 (mirror) 36GB total:
---> V: 16GB for VMEM.
---> C: the left over - 36GB For Windows 2003
2 x Samsung 400GB. Raid-1 (mirror) 400GB total:
---> L: Drive. NetWork shared out.
Posted by: raven on Mar. 19 2008,18:52
i am asking how i get the temp files to actually go to my temp drive, and how i get the vmem to work of my vmem drive, instead of the default drive (c:)
rAveN
nevermind the vmem, figured that one out...
need my temp folder to go to my temp drive.....
Posted by: wilder on Mar. 19 2008,23:38
rigt-click my computer > properties
goto advance, goto performance goto virtual memory... reduce c: to zero, and increase the allocatoin of another drive.
for temp.
right-click my computer > properties > advance > environment. Theres temp for the system and temp for your user. first create a user folder on your temp drive, then create a system folder there too... then change both.
dont put temp on a different partition/drive than your download, and user folders. it will make your pc slower.
Posted by: raven on Mar. 22 2008,15:14
i don't understand...
I did the virt mem...
but the temp folders.... not understanding how to change the drives once the folders are created.. i go to the environment, but don't see where to change the drive designation..
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