Hi Sin, I'm sure you're all glad to see me here, especially Vicious, but probably all of you. I thought since you came to Alien and bombarded the forum with posts about me (and then the topic was locked) I would respectfully come to your house so you could hear from the so-called monster named A-BOMB. A number of you came in to read the post I am referring to, and obviously thought "What an asshole this guy is". Trashing Vicious, judging him, kicking a guy when he's down. Am I right so far? If you only know what you saw, then I can't blame you for feeling that way. I don't have anything against Sin Clan despite what some people would believe. And even more hard to believe, I don't hold ill will toward Vicious! Now then, how could I be such a mean bastard on that forum post? Well, the truth is, Vicious opened a door that should have been left closed, without any reason to. You may think it was mean and disrespectful, but that is pretty much how Vicious treated me the first time I met him, at least I had felt that way. I won't go into a long history, no need to debate old debates. But in a brief brief summary, one night I entered Alien server when Vic and an Alien were going 2 on 1 against Demon. I got off a shot and killed someone before I knew they wanted to complete the match without me. They then started telling me not to play. We went around on this, they were being dicks I thought... they thought I was being a dick... etc. The next map, they then ruined any chance for me or anyone to play by killing themselves with suicides in a TDM, over 150 times. This conflict went to Alien forum where we had it out, then in the end Vicious apologized, I said thats cool, I respect you for that, and that should have ended it. I thought it did. I saw him after that in the server and figured I would man up and say hi, he obviously still held a grudge and wasnt friendly but whatever, it was no more conflict. In later months, Vic posted on Alien about his own situation and need for money, homeless, living in hotel, asking for money, pregnant g/f, saying he retired from UT, stuff like that. I thought it was a bit balsy to ask peeps from Europe for money, but whatever, not my business. So fast forward to yesterday he sends greets to Iccy and Aliens, and says he loves all in clan but one, who knows who he is. Sure I do. If he gonna single me out as being some kind of reject asshole, then guess who is gonna swing back. That was my best swing. You gave me all the ammo. Vicious, you are always talking about the strong guy you are, how you punch someones teeth in if they wrong you etc, well then you should respect that I'm gonna come back at someone who kicks me. And I'm not gonna just slap ya, I'm gonna give you my best shot. There was no reason to insult me. You took the opportunity to give me one more kick in the balls. I thought our conflict was old news. I didn't know you been losing sleep at night with your hate for me. I was surprised to see you write that. But like I said, if you gonna take a swing at me, I'm not gonna just lay down, or just give ya a girly slap back. As I said, being the mans man that you are, I would think if nothing else that you can respect that. So as you all hopefully see, I enter into your house with no disrespect, just a full description of the whole picture. Do I hold ill will toward Vicious... Demon, or anyone here? Absolutely not. I thought we were fine Vicious. As you can see here, I have not said one disrespectful thing to you. I just want you and everyone here to know where I came from on that post. Maybe it was harsh and below the belt... fact it probably was. I wil say I'm sorry that we had this conflict and just assume we both get on. I do have to say man, you have me ALL wrong, thinking I'm some 12 year old from Europe who lives with Mommy and Daddy. Truth is I am 41, live in USA, married with family, own 5 local Tae-Kwon Do studios, and dabble in UT for shits, and thats it. Not big into the clan thing...never was... just joined Alien cuz I loved the server and good peeps there. Don't rumble, not really that good... it's just a small bit of fun. So I think you are picturing me way wrong. Anyway, this was way longer than I meant. If anyone is still reading, respond however you see fit. I have not meant to come into your house and wipe mud on your rug... just trying to explain my deal and make some peace. Life is too short for anyone to have stress over a silly game. Peace. A-BOMB
But the thing is A-BOMB.. He didnt say a damned thing about you that wasnt true.. Or anything that was personal, when he said " except one person " he might have meant you, but did he go into how much of an asshole you are? NO! He was just trying to express how he feels about the break up in (_@_) clan and then here you go off topic and attack him. The things you said were way out of line and it offends me as someone on the outside looking in. Not everyone in this world lives a perfect life, and not everyone plans their road ahead of them. He needs no more obsticals in his way at the time due to he is trying really hard just to do what he can. All you did is make him feel worse about his own situation wich he really does not need. To me, you only have two choices.. Apologize, or leave him alone, flat out. No need to explain yourself, no need to tell us why you said what you said ( although I know the story and have right when it happend ) That was months ago, holding a grudge over something so stupid shows me who you are. Why couldnt have you had the balls to stand up for yourself back then instead of waiting for a cheap shot? Pointless... Even my response is to me, because I know all this is going to do is go through one ear and out the other with you... This much I do know. Have a good time A-BOMB, I hope someday you find something in life you truely can enjoy besides fucking up someones good day!
That was months ago, holding a grudge over something so stupid shows me who you are.
A-BOMB: I don't hold a grudge, I told you I have no ill will. It seems Vic held a grudge by his comment about me... I thought we were at peace.
Why couldnt have you had the balls to stand up for yourself back then instead of waiting for a cheap shot?
A-BOMB: I DID stand up for myself back then. Apparently you did not know the whole story.
Pointless... Even my response is to me, because I know all this is going to do is go through one ear and out the other with you... This much I do know. Have a good time A-BOMB, I hope someday you find something in life you truely can enjoy besides fucking up someones good day!
A-BOMB: Not looking to mess up anyones day, if I was, do you really think I would have posted this message? I came here to hopefully help this situation. Anyway, thanks for your honest response.
Hope my edits come out on the quote. Thanks for your response.
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Posted: Oct. 12 2005,17:51
maybe you went too far.
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So fast forward to yesterday he sends greets to Iccy and Aliens, and says he loves all in clan but one, who knows who he is.
I didnt really see Vicious taking you. Sure he said everyone except one. So what? So not liking that 1 is being offensive? No. Just becuse you dont like me, doesnt mean I'm going to take that as an offense.
It's when you start steping in my toes and spitting at my face that's offensive.
last i check people are allow to tell other ppl who they like and dont like if they want to. You are too.
But I didnt read Vicious talking about your wife, your kids, and forum bashing you.
You 2 didnt have to like each other, which is cool. It doesnt justify the things you said.
If you're too sensitive at the fact someone doesnt like you, and have to go out of your way to use insult, use sarcasm, and bash another person's situation to make you feel better of lie being liked by another person, that makes you the bigger asshole here.
It seems for me from the outside, you didnt want vicious to be the asshole, so you want to go out of your way to show everyone you're the biggest asshole there.
If you're really 41 year old, you got vicious beaten by 22 years. Vicious post was pretty well-behaved for his age. But whats your excuse for being 22 years older than him?
And you know what. You make it hard to believe that you're 41 years old, and own 5 dojos.
You display the maturity and security level of neither a 41 year old man, nor a sensei. And if you are.... Are you proud of yourself picking on a kid?
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Posted: Oct. 12 2005,18:10
Well I look at it this way, i could have been an arse hole, and said the person i hated was you, and take it to more complications, and say all this mean stuff about you , you know i dont like you and you know i still dont like you , every one has there reasons , i sure have mine.
all i said was that i felt bad bout the break up and love all sept one, i didnt put you on front street, i didnt bring your name in to conflict, i didnt do none of the sort, it should have been deaded there, i dont hold grudges, honestly, i just dont like ppl that put them self in that perdiciment to be liked or not liked.
i see that you do live here in the state's,. i never thought you were 12 years old i acctually thought you were about 30 35, i was wrong there your 41 years of age, you live in the states, and you own ( 5 ) tikwan do dojo's that's cool, you have your life set right, you have all the money you could want right, yet you bash a 19 year old kid, who has never had anything in his entire life, .. real wise of you.. if i was an insecure punk, like you think i am, i would have killed my self over that comment. that you made on the forums,
i didnt go there to bash no one, didnt call no names, kept it the Respect full way, You took it to the next level , i do accept your appology, but do i consider you a friend no,
will i respect you again no, will i care for you no, i care for every one that is my friend, your truely not one of them, you have your life, then keep your life, you dabble in ut, then why do you let it get to you so much, your key is supose to stay self taught, constructed, and respectfull, you should know that though, owning those dojo's .. instead you didnt keep it that way,
you became a 41 year old bully to a child that is young enouph to be your son twice, i wish i could say i had a father, i do have one, but he's dead to me ( heart wise ) who could care apparently not me, ...
before you come up in some one's life and try to put there problems on front row of the audience, and mocking and joking lauphing at there life style, i didnt throw a punch , or a swing when i said i love all but one, i was stating a fact
A fact that is merely true, ... i love every one but you , i say it again , it's truth we have a reasons, i have mine you have your's.
you didnt stand up for your self last time, you got mad, at everyone cause even Robert said you were wrong, cause he asked you not to play, you killed 3 people that 2 v 1, after me demon and robert told you to stop, some one in your own clan, you ignored, tell the full truth ,
that's when i got mad, but did i really get mad no
i lauphed about it, and hurt your feelings, my job there was done,
granted i can be an arse hole, yes we all know that, we can all be arse holes some times, but never have i once in my life disrespected some one to put there life situation as a mock, on a forum, and lauph at it, ( i do have a girl who is pregnant, i do live in a hotel, i do work my tail of to get a head, but am i gettin any where abviosly not, or i wouldnt have asked for a helping hand, im sure if you asked for a helping hand, and ppl felt bad for you , and i went and mocked you on your life situation if you were walkin in my shoes,
you would feel really bad, hurt, insecure, and wouldnt wanna live no more, .. why do i say that
because im 19 years old , iv seen more then allot of people , been through more then allot of people, you call me a criminal ,
haha i lauph at that because back then i had no choice to be a good person or a criminal, me my brother my dad and my mom lived on the streets, only way to make money was to rob, to steal, to do all that was illegal, then i had my mother taken away from me do to her own skitzophranic problems, my father found a women with money, and my brother is stuck in between still in a good place roof over his head, but still stressing, and im outcasted, only person i have left in my ENTIRE DAMND FAMILY is my little brother * and the people i call my friends * believe it or not, my friends are my family, there all i have left, ... but you would prolly bash me on that next, i could care less any more,... but im just saying, take in to consideration, put your self in my shoes, my situation, and try to live it,
im a smart person , but i had to survive, there's a difference between dieng of starvation, and stealing to eat food, stealing to get money for clothes, stealing to pay for a place so you could go to school and try to get in to colledge, unfortunetly, i never had that chance, i did, but could i persue it no, because i was disowned treated as if a bad person, it hurts to know my father my mother and all in my family cant help me, * but it feels good to know i still have my own brother * biological there to help me if he can, when he can, and how he can, ...
but for future refrence, i wouldnt talk to some one like that about there life like that, i didnt kick you in the nuts, i stated a fact i'll repeat my self, and i sureley didnt call out no names, you are the one to take it to the next level not me, cause if i bashed you you would no it, but did i. no i left it to where the word's layed. you were the one to take a opertunity, to make some one commit suicide,
Thank god that i have a high self esteem, cause any one else in my shoes prolly would have hung them self in this hotel room , but further on , I accept your appology, will i appoligize this time no, cause i have no reason to believe i did anything wrong, you were wrong this time, and like i said you are not my friend, no i wont talk to you , no i dont respect you , and i never will.
This is my final words to the post's about this whole FUGGED up ordeal , One Love Always
~SiN~ViCiOuS! For Life, One Love ALways Sinner Take's All,.
Fair Enuff. i'm not looking for you to love me , like me, respect me, or hang out with me. I just wanted to make peace ... I did hit you below the belt and I am sending you my apology. Surely twas not my most graceful moment. I put myself out on the line to post here because I wanted you to get this apology. I didn't come here to get bashed by all your clan mates (although I respect them for getting your back and I'm sure I would do the same in their position). So anyway, I won't drag this out, won't be back cuz I know this is as far as it needs to go. I do wish you a lifetime of success in the goals you are working toward, and all good things.
